Swine flu vaccination

[Tuffy]

My GP, My Endo, and my eye surgeon, are all specialists and have advised me to get the vaccine so I guess what it boils down to is what the Drs believe, some do some don;t, and if you trust your Dr's judgement.......As for me I will listen to my DR's.....

Jayne, the reason for 2 vaccines is because the regular Vaccine was manufactured before and the Manufacturers were rushing to get the H1N1 ready and distrubited before Flu season... But you can have them both at the same time...... Also the reason for a flu shot every year is they are for different types of flu, and after so long of a time the vaccine is no longer usefull in our systems. Like taking an asprin for a headache and after awhile you have to take another because the other has worn off. or lost it's strength.......

[Cycler]

Jayne.

To expand on Tuffys' excellent points:

THe "flu vaccine scientists" every year sample the various strains of Influenza causing illness around the globe and then make their best prediction on which three strains are most likely going to be active in the following year. They settle on three strains and begin production of vaccine. THe production takes about nine months top get the vaccine to market.

THe scientists don't always get it right either. THe 2008 vaccine was generally ineffective because tit dod not contain vaccine against what turned out to be the primary influenza strain infecting people.

The 2009 influenza vaccine is made up of :
A/Brisbane/59/2007(H1N1)-like virus;
A/Brisbane/10/2007 (H3N2)-like virus;
B/Brisbane 60/2008-like antigens.
The 2009-10 influenza vaccine can protect you from getting sick from these three viruses, or it can make your illness milder if you get a related but different influenza virus strain.

Notice that it does not contain any H1N1 strains. There was no indication that H1N1 was about to become a Pandemic 10 months ago when the seasonal stains were to be selected. Once the cases fH1N1 started popping up in Mexico in April of 2009 two things were immediately recognized; 1) This virus had never circulated among humans before so there was no natural immunity adn 2) IT was too late to incorporate it into the seasonal vaccine. THat is why a separate H1N1 vaccine has been made.

You do not need to get the vaccine though, It is mild in most cases, it remains susceptible to Tamiflu if begun within 48 hours of fever, and recovery is quick if not in one of the five risk groups.

[Wink]

Cycler Wrote:Wink;

The discussion is about the flu vaccines. I'm sorry if I confused you by stating "all" in which I was referring to the topic at hand, flu vaccines, and the various preparations and packagings. You are correct that there are non-influenza vaccines that are made differently but we were not discussing rabies, herpes, small pox, polio, etc. etc etc. Of course, to take it a step further, the scientific process by which a vaccine is developed and manufactured is essentially all the same thing but I don't want to tax you.

Let me re-state for clarity then that there is no difference, other than the killed virus particles involved, between the various Influenza vaccines, both the 2009 seasonal Influenza vaccine and the H1N1 influenza vaccine can be obtained with or without preservative.

That's what I was saying and it is incontrovertible.

Man! You're a real piece of work, Cycler. You haven't "confused" me at all. You are confused about what you and I have been talking about--and I sure hope you're not confusing others. Of course the discussion is about flu vaccines (Influenza Vaccines). I said nothing about your "non-influenza" vaccines BS. Post #38 still stands - and there is no way you can honestly refute it. Go back and read it. If you can't comprehend it, perhaps someone else can help you with it.

[Bad Boy Bad Boy]

I had called my Insurance Carrier last week, they don't know if their going to cover the H1N1 Swine flu vaccination yet. Strange, you think they be on top of this. I will call them again next week. If covered I will get it.

[NA87JEPO]

katicabogar Wrote:Hi, Everyone,

I was just wondering, how many of you will get the swine flu vaccine if and when able to?
Is it safe? Why are so many healthcare workers, especially nurses refusing to be vaccinated?
In some states, it is mandatory for healthcare workers to get the vaccine..if they refuse, they can get fired. This doesn't sound right.

Kat

Horrible situation," Do you know if Vaccination will be mandatory in California?
I would like to know if is possible to teach me how to post.. I am spending part of the day trying but I found the access to reply but no ideaks inin the obut

[Cycler]

# 38 ??

I did.. LOL I think you are wrong. They are both the same manufacturing process AND can be had with or without thimerasol in both versions and there is no egg free vaccine. If you know of one post it.... and don't try Fluarix.

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Cycler Wrote:Wink;

The discussion is about the flu vaccines. I'm sorry if I confused you by stating "all" in which I was referring to the topic at hand, flu vaccines, and the various preparations and packagings. You are correct that there are non-influenza vaccines that are made differently but we were not discussing rabies, herpes, small pox, polio, etc. etc etc. Of course, to take it a step further, the scientific process by which a vaccine is developed and manufactured is essentially all the same thing but I don't want to tax you.

Let me re-state for clarity then that there is no difference, other than the killed virus particles involved, between the various Influenza vaccines, both the 2009 seasonal Influenza vaccine and the H1N1 influenza vaccine can be obtained with or without preservative.

That's what I was saying and it is incontrovertible.

Man! You're a real piece of work, Cycler. You haven't "confused" me at all. You are confused about what you and I have been talking about--and I sure hope you're not confusing others. Of course the discussion is about flu vaccines (Influenza Vaccines). I said nothing about your "non-influenza" vaccines BS. Post #38 still stands - and there is no way you can honestly refute it. Go back and read it. If you can't comprehend it, perhaps someone else can help you with it.

[katicabogar]

Relatives in Europe think, we make a big deal out of the swine flu here and panic was created on purpose, so more people get vaccinated.
Kat

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Cycler Wrote:# 38 ??

I did.. LOL I think you are wrong. They are both the same manufacturing process AND can be had with or without thimerasol in both versions and there is no egg free vaccine. If you know of one post it.... and don't try Fluarix.

Here, hard head:

VIDEO
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/8128509.stm