Private Investigators

[chrischris]

If a private investigator gets ahold of your email address, is there anyway they can put a trace on your email from the IP Address?

Is it true that when you use a portable telephone, your conversation can be easily picked up and recorded from a listening device from several yards away?

Are these practices legal as part of a claim investigation? What are the limitations on Subrosa?

Thanks!

[billybubba]

chrischris Wrote:If a private investigator gets ahold of your email address, is there anyway they can put a trace on your email from the IP Address?

Is it true that when you use a portable telephone, your conversation can be easily picked up and recorded from a listening device from several yards away?

Are these practices legal as part of a claim investigation?   What are the limitations on Subrosa?

Thanks!

Question 1: Not with just your email address. If you send him an email, or someone forwards one of your emails to him, they could trace the origins. I do not believe there is any way they can trace your emails just by knowing your address. They would need a court order and access to your provider's (internet) servers and records to trace all your activity.

Question 2: Yep. Cordless phones in your house broadcast well beyond the four walls of your domicile. Some models can be picked up with a simple scanner. If you have something to hide or something you wish to remain private, use a phone with a cord. (I am assuming you are not talking about cellular phones. Todays models are all digital, and eavesdropping on them is possible, but more difficult. As for recording, I think most states view that as legal. By using the phone you are willingly "broadcasting" on public airwaves. A right to privacy cannot be assumed. Check your state laws for that.

[chrischris]

OK, so email should be pretty secure. The reason I ask is because my CA gave my email address to a PI firm who is trying to secure a recorded statement from me, and I was surprised to receive that email. I find email communication with my CA a good way to get a fast response.

So, corded phones are ok?

It's not the idea of having something to hide or not. It's an invasion of privacy and gives me a creepy feeling.

Thanks for the info BillyBubba.

[Dallas307]

Any taped or invasion in most states are for example- If I make a call to an IW or anyone  ------ in some states both parties have to know that the recording exist-in  my state for example only one party has to have knowledge - that would be me- has to know it is happening
as far as emails and such - that is an intrusion and I really do not think it is admissable--- will have to check new records since that wil be and is  new technology which will be tested in courts  if they have not have been already

[Still in Limbo]

Just a little tip on cordless phones. I had left home one evening with my family, and when I returned and unlocked the Kitchen Door, I heard someone talking in the living room!! Come to find out I was picking up the neighbors cordless phone on the speaker phone portion of mine!! Talk about being scared, I surely thought I had an intruder!!

[BeenThere]

Party "A" recording a conversation between party "a" and you is possibly legal in some states where only one person has to have knowledge that the recording is taking place. However, party "C" recording a conversation or listening to a conversation between party "a" and party "b" is a violation in every state without a warrant for wire tap. You have an expectation of privacy between yourself and the person you are speaking to without a third, unknown party, being entitled to listen in.

[Bad Boy Bad Boy]

Chrischris, IP Address, is different then normal E-mail address. Being said, from my past knowledge, and IP Adress is your information, such as a close location to where your located, what Service you use and such. In a genearl sense like a Internet (Social Security number).

Now like I have a service that throws 3 IP adresses, and the revoles all the time. But like say when I regester to like this Board, my Normal IP address will go to them, for I then select secure site for it's use.

But a Skip Tracer, can find most anything they want. I don't know why your worried yet. But trust me, when it comes to the internet, you are not as secure as you think. I too once used a program to trace E-maill and IP addresses. So yes, it's very easy to do these things.

Portable phones I have for the wife and kids. But my phone is not. But then again I have six phone lines. 4 in the house and 2 cell phones.

Oh, I forgot to say, I when thinking my E-mail could be traced, I then use what is called E-mail relaying, very few heard of it. But what it is, that some else throws out the E-mail for me, they relay , and relay again, and again, and so forth, then when it is answered and returned through E-mail, it may get faxed to me, or e-mail through a forward.

[billybubba]

Dallas and Been There, I agree completely that during calls being recorded by one of the two active parties one or both parties must be aware of the recording - depends on the state.

However, when you use a cordless phone that "broadcasts" on publicly owned airwaves, you have no right to expectation of privacy. Party "C" can legally listen and record in these situations. They may not physically attach to your lines and listen, but listening to your conversation being broadcast into the street is no different than listening to the radio in the car next to you at a traffic light. I believe you will find very few states that offer protection in that scenario.

BadBoy, I am sorry, but I do not understand your post at all. Email relays will help hide the source of emails you send, and Skip Tracers can find alot of things, but there is generally no way that simple knowledge of an address can give you the ability to monitor all the activity of that address. The IP address (Internet protocol address) is the "real" address of any computer linked to the internet. You can look at an email header to find what IP the email originated from, and where it was delivered to, but you have to have an actual email to do that. You can even go to a website like http://www.arin.net to find out who owns the network, etc. But just knowing the IP or email address does not give you access to the account activity.

Now accessing the internet, sites like this board, the IP that will show is the one that your computer uses to make the connection. Most broadband users have a fixed, or "static" IP address. Some now use a "dynamic", or rotating IP. That sounds like the service you have. Dial up is another story. That IP will change every time you log on.....

[Lilly]

Hi ChrisChris,
If they want to catch you "doing something" I'm sure there are many means to do so. Computer literate I am not....but once heard that anything you email, or any place you visit on the web is traceable and leaves a trail forever. I am wondering if my own phone is not tapped at this very moment....as suddenly, we have a strange noise (like a constant dial tone even when talking) and a rhythmic clicking during any conversation.....kinda makes me wonder.....I've not called the phone repair company as I'm trying to convince myself that I'm just being parinoid...and I don't want them leaving me without service for a repair....I'd go nutz without my PC!
Take care, Lilly

[Bad Boy Bad Boy]

Billybubba, just so you know, I myself, and friends of mine, can get into your computer, regardless what Firewall, or security system you have. Then can not only see what your doing, but watch at the same time. It's not a virus neither. It will slow your computer down only a very small amount, that 99.9% of the people wouldn't even know. It's so simple, and walking in the back door of it, is easy. But yes, it's done through your IP Address. In other words, what you think can't be done, can.

Also, are you at all familiar with the word Shunt, or a computer program with that word. It's something I have. But another issue. Also, I have two legal programs here at my desk, that allow me to enter into computers from my computer. I can watch every single thing a person is doing, and also, when their not on their computer, can get in and read everything on their computer. Even fix their computer for them. I don't need to access your computer service, I get in using your computer, to enter your service. Would I do it to someone not knowing? Not at all.

Shunt will shut down another persons computer, trying to enter mine, it won't hurt their computer, just forces them to end, and have to reboot every time they try to enter my computer. And will give me a log, event time, plus that persons IP Address.

So if I can do it, my computer buddies can do it, anyone, even a skip tracer can do. If one doesn't know this, then they can't say it's not possible, for it is.

Examples;

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