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Sorry No I AM NOT!
I WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA!PERIOD.Why do you think this way?Is it in your head he is Black going to ruin the world?Do you really want the SAME S-IT going on for the next who knows how many years?????Look at The USA NOW!.You want some OLD war supposed to be hero leading our country into a worse situation than it is already Get a grip ON REALITY.I am a Regular Guy trying to raise a Family here in the midwest.Have You seen whats going on now?? to the US ECONOMY?PAY ATTENTION.The economy is great Huh?Just wait the last President and his crew will leave us all in a Big Mess.I hope he takes care of his Buddies in Texas better than he did in New Orleans!!!!!I want and We all want Real Change to Washington.Obama will bring Tax relief to the middle class!End the war in Iraq that was started up by his father in the begining he had to follow through with daddy.OBAMA will get all those lobbists out of our Goverment in Washington.Middle class cut is 3 times what Mr.Ms is.Obamas plan will %95 OF familys with a $1000 tax cut.OBAMA Will provide $1000 Emergency Energy rebate from the skyrocketing energy costs.There is so much much more!Go to OBAMA.COM and learn.I just being a regular person living in AMERICA and seeing what has and still is Happening Think that CHANGE IS WHAT WE NEED!DONT YOU?If you like the way America is heading these days Vote for mccain and palin Hope you have alot of money to live on for the next decade!Born
I just have a quick note. Same as I said in another thread. Jayne I agree with most of what you have said here BUT the fact that your beloved dad will be voting R for Palin. He should be voting for the best candidate for President not the VP. I hear alot of that here. Palin, Palin, Palin. She is not running for president and God willing whoever is elected will not come to harm so the VP takes over. I'm sorry, I know the VP has a big role BUT I feel we cannot make a good judgement call because the VP candidate is liked. The presidential candiate must be kept in mind first. JMO>

There is too much anger in this thread.


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See, honestly, I am more of a democrat than anything, but that party has not been providing the best candidates in my opinion. Its almost like they don't want to win the race. The black thing means nothing to me. I went to school in a city next to Gary, IN. That city is probably 95% black. Obama doesn't even have that much black in him. He is mostly Arab and white. It isn't a race thing. It is the fact that he is all of a sudden a different person with different values now that he is running for president. Has his opinions really changed or is he just a shady guy that no one knows for sure what he is really going to do or lie about. McCain hasn't been quite as shady to me in as big of areas. Now, please people, don't think I believe no politians are shady. Trust me, I know they are all liars and change their views in order to get the most votes. That is the biggest problem with the last two democrate candidates, they both were caught in way more lies than the republicans. I'd rather have a skunk who tells me he's going to fire than one who sneaks up and fires with me unaware. I agree with the first post on here, neither one is going to fix anything, but I figure I'm going to go with the one who is the least shady to me.
OBAMA'S 'NOT EXACTLY'S'


1.) Selma Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965. (Google <http://www.google.com/> ' Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various un truths.)


2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government.


3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fight er - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had.


4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY; your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya. It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is p ro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone.

Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women an d children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter.. Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth.


5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to 1 man.


6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama.

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. If elected, he would be the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya, his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). From....and for more... .go to.....

< SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma', 'sans-serif'">http://www.arcadeathome.com/n ewsboy.phtml?Barack_Hussein_Obama_-_Arab-American,_only_6.25%25_African

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office.

4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in islam'' http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view& amp;pageId=60559


8.) My School In Indonesia was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book).

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times a year ago: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks); Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, en hanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.'


9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the langua ge.


10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia, I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn, how to study the Koran and watch cartoons.


11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise); you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies.


12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine.


13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your bo ok. It doesn't, and never did, exist.


14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My outlook on Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist.


15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, here you are, despite saying, live on TV,
that you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first.


16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES.


17.) Oops, I Misvoted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote.


18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.


19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE.


20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it, or create it.


21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish.


22.) I Wro te A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came.

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, as of March, 2008, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within.


24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens. You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books.


25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill.

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part.

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office.

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them.

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction of Israel .

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY; you said let the delegates decide.

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate duri ng small windows of time.

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself.

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Pa lmer from running against you.

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it.

35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting.

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple <http://www.apple.com/> in one afternoon.

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time.

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it
I'm sorry for bringing this up thanks Jayne I agree to disagree. As for one being better than the other,McCain or Obama neither will help us that is what scares me.A strong leader is needed, one that is not bought and paid for and one that is not hand picked from the CFR how can they be different? as they both where hand picked from the same place or stable.

As with the whole war thing well I cannot help but think they want us out of there anyway and have stated it and it makes me worry to hear McCain say we will be there for 100 years,WHAT! and as for other countries doing anything to us all I say is who? Iran has not I see us trying to go to war with them we have been caught lying about their little navy speed boats harassing us when they did not. I see lots of generals and Admirals quiting this war which speaks volumes another one just quit.As for all that are serving they do one of hell of a job and I never said they have not as I grew up in the military on Marine bases and do understand what they give our country but they have been used way too much without a break and it is taking a toll on them. Yet our government or I should say Chenny and Bush decide to pay Blackwater and the like lots of money to be soldiers there what a slap in the face to the real hero's our servicemen and women who do not get paid as much or even near what these hired guns do! another thing we should all be pissed about all this Halerburton stuff did you know how Chenny is going to leave the U.S after he is gone,he will leave for the middle east country called Dubai how nice of him and Bush is going to South America I wonder why? cause they sold us out all the rich are leaving us they see us as a sinking ship!

I do not think we are a sinking ship far from it I see us as Americans the I CANS type of people we all chip in to right a ship and that is what makes us different than the rest of the world there is one kink I can see and that is illegals from Mexico who think this is there land and have taken over parts of Cali and Texas all along the southern border I said last time how our border patrol is getting shot at well it seems the Mexican military is shooting at them also.

I will not go any further into this but say I believe in AmerICANS and when things seem the worst we chip in and show our true colors which may bleed but never runs! I say this our first president had a dream once and if you do not know what it was look it up it may be the time he saw in his vision for our great country.Enough from me.
I believe in the old saying " Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see."
I agree tuffy...love Red
Tuffy Wrote:I believe in the old saying " Don't believe anything you hear, and only half of what you see."

Unless you hear it from me, of course....
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I'm sorry but this will be my last post as I must get things in order I received a email from a dear friend and this goes into the whole thing of congress and the secret session they had not to long ago. Any way the email that was sent I believe as my friend has never steered me wrong any time in the past whether it was for work or government not many know what I did before my injury and well I flew allot and went to different cities I would be gone weeks at a time and be home for a few weeks if that.

So here is the email it is not to cause fear but as we all say ICAN in us must come out take care friends good luck and do take care of your neighbors and friends love ya all even though I screwed up allot on mistake or was it LOL.


PRIORITY REPORT: MARTIAL LAW IS NOW ONLY WEEKS AWAY!
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> I don't know whether you have heard of George Green, but he is a former investment banker (Registered Financial Principal with the N.A.S.D.) and a Broker/Dealer, Securities Underwriter, Real Estate Developer, Insurance Broker and Publisher, who was invited to become a member of the 'Power Elite'.
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> However, faced with a moral and ethical dilemma, he turned his back on his former associates and chose to walk an entirely different path in which he has tried to warn the world of the Power Elite's plans for the future.
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> Anyway, my attention was drawn to a recorded telephone conversation, on July 16th 2008, between George Green and an as yet unidentified web interviewer from the 'Conscious News Network', at: http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/news.htm . If you cannot access it there, it can also be found at: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docidv...rwLRqYW-Aw
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> Although it is described as a 'video', as the content is audio only, the streaming is smooth and seam-free. However, knowing how busy you are (and just how little time there is left for the world), I have extracted the main points emphasized by George Green, which I have listed, without comment, as an Appendix to this email. In the event that you require clarification, having listened to this recording a half dozen times, I am familiar with all the 'nuances' and would be happy to oblige.
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> The bottom line is that Bush is now expected to introduce Martial Law on or before 30th September 2008 - since this date marks the end of the Fiscal Year, when revelations about the true state of the economy - and the questionable practices of the Federal Reserve - are likely to result in riots in the streets and stockbrokers, bankers and financiers throwing themselves off the roofs of their buildings! It is not certain what pretext Bush proposes to use to 'justify' the imposition of Martial Law, but keep an eye on any War Games scheduled to take place in September 2008. My own money is on a Fort Detrick created Flu Pandemic spread primarily by compulsory vaccination but, judging from the deliberate complexity and diversity of 9/11, we must be prepared for multiple false flag events to throw state government and the citizenry off balance.
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> Best regards,
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you do not need the name LOL
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> P.S. Because of the urgent and vital nature of this communication, I have extensively copied it so you can send it to others whom I hope will recirculate it as widely as possible to their email listings.
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> 1. At the beginning of July, the Bank of International Settlements in Switzerland, which is owned by the thirteen [Illuminati] Banking Families under Rothschild, stated that it wanted to audit the US Federal Reserve. Bush reluctantly had to agree to this, but with the proviso that the audit would not be conducted until he has left office. However, when the truth inevitably leaks out on 30th September 2008, clearly the Bank of International Settlements will no longer be prepared to accept the US Dollar.
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> 2. With the realization that the Federal Reserve has been pumping two billion US Dollars a day into the economy in a forlorn effort to try to keep the US afloat, the US is now construed as 'the poor kid on the block', the 'bankrupt of the world' and nobody is prepared to lend them anything. Foreign governments have said 'We will no longer take your bonds'.
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> 3. This situation has resulted in worldwide repercussions: for example China, which is the biggest US creditor, has told US importers that they may not pay more then 20% of the total cost of their goods in US Dollars.
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> 4. Also since the beginning of July, Germany has announced that it will no longer accept Euros from eight of their fellow EU members, the two countries with which they are most concerned being Italy and Spain.
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> 5. The Real Estate market is expected to go down by an additional 50% from its value on 16th August. Because of the collapse of the Real Estate market, which is expected to lead to at least a further two million foreclosures within the next 12 months, US Banks are no longer prepared to trust each other, so inter-bank lending has virtually ceased.
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> 6. This has had a knock-on effect on would-be house purchasers. Like the old days, anyone who now wants to get a mortgage has to put 20% down and to satisfy the lender that their job is secure.
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> 7. You may have seen Bush go on television to tell everyone not to worry as the US Government-sponsored Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) will guarantee the safety of their bank deposits. However, the truth is that the FDIC can barely raise 30 cents on the dollar to cover its potential liabilities; and Bank of America and Wells Fargo are in a similar situation.
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> 8. Banks have already started telling their depositors that they cannot withdraw their own cash.
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> 9. It is universally accepted internationally that the US Dollar is going to collapse by the end of September 2008. some foreign banks have already started to refuse to take U.S. deposits and, since the Patriot Act, if you do manage to send money to a foreign bank, they are required to report the fact to the USG, who will make you prove how you obtained it and if you cannot do so, they will automatically label you a 'terrorist' or a 'drug dealer' and confiscate it.
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> 10. The Bank of South America is trying to organize its own currency for use within the South American continent when the US Dollar finally crashes, based on an initial provision of eight billion dollars.
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> 11. As at July 1st, the Japanese stock market was down 12%, the Australian stock market was down 18%, the German stock market was down 22%, the Indian stock market was down 36%; and China's Shanghai Exchange was down 50%.
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> 12. Within the next year, the DOW is expected to fall to between 7500 and 8000.
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> 13. Everyone is now desperately trying to get liquid; and Oil, Gold and Drugs have become the only universally accepted world currencies.
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> 14. The only sensible advice is either to change dollars into other currencies, or buy gold and silver (while you still can, because the US is likely to make it illegal to own gold); and stock up on canned food and ammunition, the price of which is going to go through the roof. Already the major canners have reduced the size of cans by 20% to preserve stock whilst also maximizing their profits.
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> 15. Already 80% of the cost of an apple in a supermarket is due to energy costs; and this proportion is likely to rise. We have already started to see the situation where growers, producers and importers have stopped supplying many basic foodstuffs because the price of oil has meant that the cost of getting it to market is more than they can hope to sell it for. The food shortages that have resulted are likely to become even more acute because the USG is talking of introducing price controls. Who will be prepared to continue to supply the market when they are sustaining increasing losses?
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> 16. The falling value of the dollar has created artificial shortages because other countries can now buy US goods cheaper than they can produce them themselves.
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> 17. Inflation is expected to rise by 35 - 40% by the end of this year in real terms. Gasoline 5 Dollars a Gallon everywhere.
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> 18. Following the collapse of the US Dollar, the Euro is also expected to collapse. In fact, Russia is already negotiating with Germany about a new currency.
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> 19. The Iranian Oil Bourse was set up to trade oil internationally in Euros (see: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/12125 ) but, just when the bourse was ready to go live, the submarine cables were conveniently cut.
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> 20. You can forget about the NAU's Amero. The Amero is off the table - the Canadian Prime Minister said 'We're not going to support a bankrupt country'; and Mexico is so corrupt that nobody knows where they're coming from.
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> 21. In the future, South America will be one of the safest areas on the planet. They have ample commodities and very little debt. Not everywhere is ideal (in some countries you would need to live in a defended compound). Ecuador is close to becoming self sufficient in food terms.
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> 22. Kissinger and the population reduction crew are trying to get WW3 started before September 30th (end of the US Fiscal Year), then Bush can suspend everything. Israel and the US are working out the details to attack Iran to start WW3. The main reason for the use of Depleted Uranium munitions in Iraq is 'to cull the herd'.
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> 23. Of the US population of 300 million, half are over 50 and most of the kids can't read or write. Sport and entertainment are what has been used to keep everyone going. When (rather than if) Bush calls a National Emergency, if you are over the age of 44 only if you have a use which 'they' want will 'they' be prepared to keep you alive. Moreover, what law will we have which says that we even own our own homes?
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> 24. Everybody must downsize into small self-contained and (as far as possible) self-sufficient communities, People will have to forget their 'wants' and to concentrate solely on what they actually need to survive.
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> 25. In short, we are marching towards our self-imprisonment. I'm ready to get out of harm's way. I know high ups who will tell me when it's time to leave.

one last thing please watch this video for more information!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSndj2v4nO8

I will look in every once in awhile I cannot leave you all LOL but take this message for what it is worth do I believe in it all MMM NOPE do I believe in most of it MMM YEP like anything false info is always sent with real info it is up to you to decide which is which...take heed take precautions please I believe in ICAN! I need that on my moral patch Smile PEACE
I prayed hard if I should do this well it is too late now as he led me to you and well you saw it so GOD thank you for taking over Smile
Ok. Enough of this garbage. This is simply a variation of the "Martial Law will be declared" hoax of 2000. Did you actually read that "email"? Kissinger??? Is he still alive? (of course he is, but long since past prime influence). Item 23 is the best. If you are over 44, "they" will only let you live if "they" have a use for you??? Who is "they"? Our military? Jayne's kids? Are they "the ones"?

Are we to believe that our military (aka children of Jayne and thousands like her) are to support a declaration of martial law and the subsequent slaughter of most people over 44 (aka Jayne and thousands like her)? How will they be able to read the orders, since according to the "letter" none of them can read?

This apocalyptic BS is just more of that viral crap that is designed to prey on the fears and insecurities of people. It is garbage and I will not have it here.

On October 1st, if we're not under martial law, and I am dead (since I am over 44 - along with Jayne and thousands like her), someone is going to owe us all an apology. I will return to this thread that day looking for one.
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