I have an employee that left work to go to the hospital following a fall. He claims that I should pay him from the time he left the job site until he returned from the hospital. I claim that by rites once he left the job site he was no longer on my time. By the wasy there was nothing wrong with him he fell and went and had over 3000.00 in test done just to be safe.
I am just thinking how lucky your employees must feel to be working for someone like you.
Just my opinion.
I don't know what state you are in, but, while in most states there is no requirement that you pay the employee for the time missed, there are a couple that require payment for the full date of injury.
You should also consider a few things. The employee was injured on your job. You are very lucky that he came back to work right away and was not seriously injured. One of the main reasons claims go bad (I was an adjuster so I'm talking from experience) is when a worker gets hurt and the employer either shows no compassion or actually gives the employee a hard time about it.
When an employer shows no loyalty to a worker, its very easy then for the worker to have no feelings of loyalty to the employer.
Also, keep in mind, just because tests were done, doesn't mean the employee was not hurt. Things sometimes show up after time. You still could have some future exposure.
So, you are probably right (depending on your state) that you don't have to pay the employee, but maybe the few hours you pay for might show the employees you value them. You're lucky. This person came back to work. Next time, you may not be as lucky.
Just something to think about...
[/b]I do not know if it is a law here or not in Mass, but if someone left on our construction job site that was injured, they would be drug tested and get the rest of the work day pay.
I agree with the rest of the posts, that you are lucky this person did not use WC from your job, but could still possibly come back to you as your ic being billed for the testing this person had if they claimed it happened at work. [b]
Garyb,
Are you shirt tail relation to my old boss? My goodness, my tests showed nothing wrong either...this is because my dislocated shoulder popped back "in" on it's own, when I opened the ER door, and it came shut on me!(yes they made me drive myself, & BTW...they paid my time away from work that day)
As the ER docs picked me up off my knees in the doorway, and I commenced to puke all over their floor from the tremendous pain, One doc said, i believe you just fixed yourself! Guess what? The xray showed nothing! I had fixed myself!! Was it something? YES! Did my boss believe it? NO. Did i trust my once beloved boss after that? NO. Then you know what happened? Three surgeries later (many many thousands of dollars) i am left permenantly disabled but still collecting WC since 2005!
Lilly
Not very welcoming people -- i expected better of you.
gary:
the injured worker forum is very active. most are frustrated and angry and are not able to see or understand the other side of the situation; bare with them.
You are probably correct about the payments but without knowing what state work comp laws you are under I can't say for sure. Most states have a waiting period where disability is not paid for the first few days of lost time (length varies by state). Even then leave time for treatment is not covered.
1171. I think we are able to speak for ourselves. Unless you have been on our side of the fence, then you would not understand how US injured people feel about people trying to NOT pay for us , and our injuries.
PS. I have seen many post were you were VERY unwelcoming also. Not to mention RUDE remarks that people asking for help on here do not need from you. Have you turned a new leaf????
MY pain level is NOT very good today, and boy did that just push my button!!!!!! To the rest of the people reading this, please excuse my lashing out.
Not very welcoming people -- i expected better of you.
gary:
the injured worker forum is very active. most are frustrated and angry and are not able to see or understand the other side of the situation; bare with them.
You are probably correct about the payments but without knowing what state work comp laws you are under I can't say for sure. Most states have a waiting period where disability is not paid for the first few days of lost time (length varies by state). Even then leave time for treatment is not covered.
1171 and gary:
What I posted was not meant to be "not welcoming" nor critical. Many employers are just as new to the WC system as the injured workers. When you have an employer who has never had to go through having an employee injured, sometimes they do not always know what the best thing is to do. I was not criticizing. You stated "most are frustrated and angry and are not able to see or understand the other side of the situation: bare (sic)(correct spelling, bear) with them"
My comment was based on my experience as the "enemy", to the injured worker, the insurance carrier. I was an adjuster.
I also know that when I respond to the injured on this site, they probably don't always like what I have to say either. However, I was also an injured worker, BEFORE I was an adjuster. I just try to give the facts as per the law and also per my experience. Just because the law says one thing, doesn't mean that's the way everything turns out.
I apologize if I came across as "not welcoming" Just trying to be honest.
Not very welcoming people -- i expected better of you.
gary:
the injured worker forum is very active. most are frustrated and angry and are not able to see or understand the other side of the situation; bare with them.
You are probably correct about the payments but without knowing what state work comp laws you are under I can't say for sure. Most states have a waiting period where disability is not paid for the first few days of lost time (length varies by state). Even then leave time for treatment is not covered.
1171:
You're dead wrong. Most of us injured workers DO, indeed, see and understand the other side of the situation--and have bona fide reasons to be frustrated and angry...particularly when there are angry little selfish suckups are on the other side!
As for Garyb, I hope he takes to heart the info kate offered. She's a smart woman. 1171, if you were not beyond redemption, I would advise that you take a few notes from her; but, nah...I think it's too late.
I'm sorry if i was unwelcomeing so I'll try the 1171 trick!
There. Is that better?
Here's some for Queenbee, Kate, Wink & Sparkey too!
(I had to erase several smileys as only 5 total are accepted)
The undertone of the orig post suggested their employee was faking an injury and simply trying to run a bill up for the employer....and the employer had the gall to complain about paying for the measley couple of hrs the injured was gone. I was simply telling my story about my boss who had the same mind set as garyb's post hinted.....
My boss was dead wrong.
Angry? frustrated? In pain? limited daily activities like washing my hair? Shaving my underarms? etc, etc
YOU BET......I'm very pissed....
Lilly