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Governor Kitzhaber, When Exactly is a Good a Time to Get Involved at SAIF?

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Dear Governor Kitzhaber,

Sorry to bother you again. I had the opportunity Friday evening to watch the debate you participated in with your opponent, Dennis Richardson, earlier that day. I had a few observations, and some follow up questions for you.

First, I was greatly relieved to learn that you actually are aware of SAIF, your workers' compensation state owned insurance company. Prior to this debate we were concerned that you did not even know it existed, since you have never publicly uttered a word about it, failed to show for its 100 year anniversary, have not filled vacant board positions, and never met with it's CEO, your agency director. Failing to address the public lynching of that director with the use of false information and the possible violation of state open meeting laws by your appointed board also lends to this impression.

So when one of the panelists at the debate asked you about getting involved over the controversy of the firing of CEO John Plotkin, I was mightily impressed that you did not have to ask for a clarification.

However, your answer has prompted a few follow up questions for me. You stated that this "Was a conflict between the Board of Directors and the agency", and since operations were not being affected, you felt this was not a time for you to get involved.

I am, on one level, glad you entered politics, because an attitude like that would be less than effective for a practicing physician. "Well Edna, you have a baseball sized tumor in your brain, but since your heart is still beating, this is not the time to get involved". Of course, that conversation could only happen when Edna cornered you at the ranch, since it is pretty clear you would not have shown up for her appointment. But I digress....

So, my question is simply, if not now, when? If not you, who?

If you have an open vacancy on your Board of Directors that has languished for months on end, would that be a good time to get involved?

When two of your board members are well over their term limitations and need to be replaced, would that be the time?

When the board fires it's CEO after just 3 months, and it is revealed that they used false information and failed to follow any appropriate procedures in this action, thereby exposing your agency to massive liability and legal expenses, would that be a good time?

Or perhaps when it appears that your board violated open meeting laws, an act that in my state would be subject to criminal prosecution, would that be a time for a looksie?

When the rank and file are clearly upset and scared over the obvious political gamesmanship that is being played, would that be the time?

When it appears a former agency director may have violated state law by possibly manipulating the agency she used to run; how about then?

Or perhaps when it begins to be obvious that the management left in place after this debacle may not be capable of managing the situation? Now?

Clearly, and sadly, we already have our answer to these questions. It appears you cannot be bothered. Perhaps it is time for those of us concerned with this story to stop hoping for you to do the right thing. Perhaps it is time for us to look elsewhere for solutions. SAIF is a state agency that manages over four billion dollars of your employers money. It is too big and too important to ignore in what appears to be more and more a conspiratorial effort to remove an outsider who threatened the status quo.

Unfortunately I believe it is time for those impacted to contact federal investigators with their concerns about this mess. Employees and others with information and concern should probably be reaching out to US Attorneys or the FBI. It is fairly clear to me that your state is not capable of policing itself. Plotkin, in his first salvo in this legal battle, has made plausible accusations that your board violated state open meeting laws in the handling of this debacle. If his legal actions or subsequent investigations prove this to be correct, I would suggest citizen complaints to the Oregon State Bar would be in order. There are two attorneys on that board, and quite frankly, lawyers on boards that willingly violate the law probably shouldn't be lawyers anymore. After all, as one of those lawyers noted at Plotkins termination, if we are to have a "higher standard" for our CEO, we should also have one for the people who are his bosses.

And to be honest, Governor, we should have those standards for you as well.

The good news here, of course, is that it is not too late to fix this. John Plotkin has given everyone involved an easy out. He has filed suit asking to be reinstated and to have his legal expenses covered. Given what we now know from public records, it is a no brainer. Give him his job back and let the man finish what he started. To do so would be the simple acknowledgment of a mistake. To not do so, at this point, could be the harbinger of something much worse, that there is indeed something more sinister at play and for which federal authorities clearly need to be involved.

Fortunately, thanks to the myriad of issues you have had with your Cover Oregon program, they are already there. A trip to SAIF will be a short and easy addition for them.

Sincerely,

Bob Wilson
From Bob's Cluttered Desk

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current employee 07/21/2014 14:25:23
Bob, I sent an email to Governor Kitzhaber's request assistance site this morning - not - however - as eloquent as yours! Once again thanks -
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07/21/2014 14:27:53
You SO rock, Bob!
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Kathryn Olney 07/21/2014 14:41:36
Thank you for asking the follow-up questions that the media couldn't be bothered with. Your analogy is spot-on: SAIF is still functioning, but that doesn't mean there isn't something terribly wrong.
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sylvester 07/21/2014 15:21:31
Not much more to be said.

Except during free time I have been reading through the public release documents, I found two emails from Mr. Rob Van Cleave, SAIF Board member, which have the following statements;

May 29th Mr. Rob Van Cleave email
“I’m concerned that employees will be allowed to make allegations at a liberty hearing that are blatant lies about Board members and we won’t have a chance to refute or defend.”

May 29th Mr. Rob Van Cleave email
“I’m also interested to know if a Board member would lose any level of legal protection if they leave the Board before this is settled?”

Last week employees were advised that Direct Talk, the reportedly anonymous safe mechanism for internal questions about our jobs and the corporation can be used by the DOJ if so ordered by the court. Not news just another of what feels like a veiled threat by the Executive Counsel

We were also told the litigation process is where facts need to come out, not in Direct Talk.
I know I am ignorant of most legal actions but I thought facts came out during an investigation before adverse actions were taken?
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07/24/2014 15:06:02
I read those as well, and it made me even more sad to realize how narcissistic and self centered our board is. Add that to the complaints they made in the board meeting about how much of their time this had taken up, and how they were just volunteers.

Oh, boo hoo give me a freakin' break.

They just signed up for a little cronyism cocktail party, they aren't and never have acted as true board members.
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Bob Wilson 07/22/2014 13:03:33
I would be interested in seeing copies/screenshots of those emails. Send to info at workerscompensation.com - Subject: ATTN SAIF Communication
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A SAIF Chick 07/24/2014 19:24:12
Bob,
The documents are meant for Saif employees eyes only, if they are leaked it could pose a problem if this goes to court. Just saying what I heard.
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07/25/2014 15:55:11
There is nothing in the email that would prevent it from being released in a public records request. Obviously, info about specific policyholders or injured workers, or attorney client communication is protected, but everything else is public records.

I even remember a few years ago the SJ publishing info about specific claims filed by state workers.
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07/24/2014 19:54:24
Who could it pose a problem for? SAIF or John Plotkin? I don't see how those docs could hurt him if published. Who did you hear that from?
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07/25/2014 02:17:37
It could cause a problem for potential jurors.
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??? 07/24/2014 19:53:24
The documents are public records. How would that be meant for SAIF employees only?
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Bob,

Thanks again for being there for Kim and John, SAIF employees and the employers of Oregon. You rock! As this debacle drags on, it becomes more and more ridiculous.

Early on, I contacted the governors's office with no response (no surprise there). However, I will repeat that effort. Here are the particulars for contacting Kitzhaber. If you go with the online approach, there is no category meeting the criteria of what happened at SAIF to John Plotkin, "Gross Injustice to an Honorable Man,"

Also, if anyone is interested in contacting the legislator from your area and see if we can start more pressure at a lower level, here is that information.

Phone
Governor's Citizens' Representative Office - (503) 378-4582

Mail
Governor Kitzhaber
Attn: Citizens' Representative
160 State Capitol
900 Court Street
Salem, Oregon 97301-4047

Email the Governor
http://www.oregon.gov/gov/pages/shareyouropinionsent.aspx

Enter your address or click on the interactive map to locate your legislator
https://www.oregonlegislature.gov/FindYourLegislator/leg-districts.html

I stand by John Plotkin!

Signed SAIF Employee Determined to do the Right Thing and Stay the Course
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07/21/2014 15:55:55
Thank you Bob! You are spot on! You state what all of us at SAIF feel but can articulate well! We are so appreciative of your words. Thank you!
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07/21/2014 17:04:25
Write in John Plotkin for Governor! :)
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07/21/2014 18:36:28
He would most definitely have my vote!
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bailey 07/21/2014 19:04:47
Great article, Bob. Your stories are well written and to the point and I thank you. As for our illustrious governor .. I can't think of a single significant thing that he has done in his three terms of office (and I am a card-carrying democrat). But, if the only thing that comes of this is that Brenda JP Rocklin's reputation is ruined, I can sleep very well at night. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.
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Another SAIF Employee 07/21/2014 20:19:33
I note that Governer Kitzhaber does have a facebook page "John Kitzhaber for Governor". If he doesn't respond to emails and letters.. perhaps questions to him on his active facebook page might get his attention that the current situation is not just between the Board of Directors and SAIF. Just food for thought.
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Don Naptolong 07/22/2014 16:50:25
Having worked on a few political campaigns I would forget the facebook page and the emails to the Governors office. They are in full swing campaign mode and have a white board....On one side it says: "stuff that can help" and on the other side it says:" stuff that can hurt"

SAIF is on the "stuff that can hurt" side. It can't get him any votes. Obviously, as he said it himself, he is aware of what's going-on. The best way to get them to move is to get the message out.. A booth at the state fair would be a good idea, writing to the editorial boards repeatedly, a potluck barbecue where the press is invited...... stating the issues succinctly. SAIF isn't going away. Those that are still there that shouldn't be will be dealt with in due course. So, they are just hanging on until they are shown the door. Where else is Ryan Fleming going to make the kind of money Brenda nailed down for him? No where. He is radioactive. So, he stays until he has to leave. Then he joins the food stamp and unemployment line...where he will remain until he moves to N. Dakota and a job in the oil shale fields humping pipe...and so it goes.

It is kind of galling that the Cover Oregon people were dealt with so quickly when their incompetence was finally revealed. But, that was during the the ramp up to the campaign. Now they are in full campaign mode and stuff that takes them off message is being pushed aside.
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07/23/2014 05:13:35
Maybe we need to buy a full page ad in the Statesman Journal of our plight and to advertise the petition to re-instate John Plotkin:)
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TWWGNW 07/21/2014 23:31:10
Thanks for the great idea. I wrote on his facebook page.
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otter 07/21/2014 23:45:56
Way to go Bob! I just sent your letter to the journalists who were on the debate panel.
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Another SAIF employee 07/22/2014 01:57:17
I just posted something on his facebook page as well. It says it posted- but it didn't. I suspect he has his page blocked (or reviewed) prior to any postings.. and won't allow anything about SAIF to be published on his Facebook Page. He has two of them (the official governor one) and his policital running for office one.
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SAIF employee 101 07/22/2014 03:09:48
Thanks for another great article Bob! It's so sad that you seem to care and relate more to SAIF employees then our own company. SAIF has really taken a turn for the worse, with no end in sight. We still have Ryan Flemimg running our HR department. Disgusting.... When is SAIF management going to wake up and do something? I know many employees who are looking for other jobs. We are tired of working for a company that only cares about management and not front line employees. I hope the managers have a good time doing all the work when many of the front-line employees quit.
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Don Naptolong 07/22/2014 15:50:03
Of all the obvious moves Gilkey can make with no potential for blow back is to put Fleming on admin leave...work stationed at home. You then delegate his duties, such as they are, to his immediate subordinate staff . When this gets sorted...he is either invited back or is fired. Very simple. At minimum you want to get him out of the way so that staff feel comfortable their HR office isn't corrupted by some virus.His presence keeps re-infecting it. They are subject to the same rules as everyone else...
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Brandon Smith 07/22/2014 04:01:12
A friend, who happens to be a policyholder at SAIF, forwarded me an email. It seems my friend received a solicitation for a donation from Gov. Kitzhaber's campaign. My friend's response:

"I have always supported the Governor and the Democratic party. BUT Why is the Governor ignoring the crisis at SAIF? That board he appointed, and the outgoing executive director illegally trying to mastermind her way back into power are making our state a laughing stock in addition to exposing us all to higher SAIF premiums to make up for the expenses associated with their screw ups and power grabs. Before asking me for money, DO SOMETHING!!"

Once again, this was a SAIF CORPORATION POLICYHOLDER who responded to a campaign donation request from our governor.
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concerned at saif 07/22/2014 04:02:06
it concerns me that the number of posts on the blog keeps dropping off. We have just 12 today with the current post. I think to keep the cause going forward, we need to remain active on the blog. Please continue to share your thoughts and put them in writing. Don't just say thank you, Bob, you are the best, Share your concerns and observations, note your feelings about SAIF and the situation we are in. We need to put our thoughts out there. We do not want this process to slow, even though we are in a lull with the litigation, we owe it to Bob to continue responding and posting on the blog, and we owe it to ourselves. I also encourage all of us to look at the other posts by Bob on the blog that do no pertain to SAIF and to comment. I have been reading them, he has quite a talent. He has incredible insight and writes very interesting articles on a variety of wc subjects. We owe it to Bob to continue to support his writing and opinions, he has supported us...let's keep the focus on the future and support Bob, while keeping the pressure on through our comments in the blog about what we have been through so far, what we think, and where we should go in the future.
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07/22/2014 13:44:51
More importantly the petition signatures have slowed to a crawl with no new signatures yesterday and only one the day before. We need to step it up!
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SAIF ee 07/22/2014 04:33:30
I haven’t read all of the documents that have been made public, but have had mixed emotions as I slowly plow through them. I am proud of the execs who are noted to have stood up to the others when it was obvious there was wrongdoing and lying.
I also wonder about the responsibilities of an officer of our corporation when they know something is wrong but choose to ignore it and let it go. I’m sure there are many incidents, but some examples in the notes I’ve read: Rick Hanson called Colleen Sealock because he knew she would know more than he did, and she did know more. Rick knew that a retired SAIF employee was in on confidential employee information and he did nothing about it? He obviously had a history of calling her whenever he needed to know something as she always knew more than he did (his words in an Oregonian article). And Bruce Hoffman and Rick Hanson agreed they wouldn’t stand by and watch the way they did when Snyder and Mueller were drug through the mud and shown the door. I don’t know much about the Snyder issues, but Mueller sounds like the real hero. And Rick said that they all knew Ryan was incompetent? What did he and the others do with this information? And finally, they all seem to agree that Brenda Rocklin was a tyrant, ran good people out, and did not always act in the best interest of the corporation. None of them felt the responsibility to step up and question the board? Oh wait, Mueller did, and they all watched him shamed and canned. I’m not sure I can trust any of the execs. They didn’t step up for all the years they saw Rocklin rule as a monarchy and fire good people. Do they have my back? Do they have anyone’s back? They don’t even trust each other or our interim CEO. Maybe it’s time to clean house and oust them all.
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07/22/2014 16:51:02
While you are generally correct, I think you need to give Rick and others some benefit of the doubt. When working for Brenda, there wasn't a threat of retribution, there was a guarantee. While we all would like to think we would stand up against any wrong doing, it isn't easy and sometimes you have to build the courage and finally say enough is enough.
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07/23/2014 14:00:54
Rick has put his career on the line more than anyone else in EC to call out those involved in the scheme. You sit here and anonymously post scathing comments, but Rick called out certain EC members to their face, and was rewarded with threats from Gilkey for doing so. If it wasn't for Rick, Chris would still be here. Let's not turn on ECs who are on our side, and are in a position to actually make a difference.

As long as we have the current board, and Gilkey continues to take his marching orders from Rocklin-ites, there is only so much the rest of EC can do. We need to concentrate on petitioning Kitzhaber to replace the BOD ASAP, and emphasize that the ENTIRE board used poor judgement, and failed to carry our their responsibilities with due diligence. It's their job to see that a proper investigation has been done, not just rubber stamp whatever Davie and Fleming tell them to do.
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07/24/2014 02:42:26
Curious about your comment.."if it wasn't for Rick Chris would still be here". How so?
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07/23/2014 18:46:18
Actually they aren't scathing comments, they are repeating what Rick has written or said to a reporter. He was more vocal, but they are all officers of a public corporation. Survival of the execs is not enough when they have responsibilities. Mueller put it on the line. He did the right thing. The others were apparently too self preserving to stand with him. Not just Rick, not even sure if Rick was a VP then. Shannon was not a VP then as she took Mueller's place. But I think she quickly realized the muck of Brenda and learned to keep her head low. They all knew the damage Brenda was doing, yet none of them stood up to her or the board. I get the threat they felt, but again, they are officers with responsibility. I expect more from them, all of them. If nothing else I hope they are looking inside themselves and doing some sole searching. Were they leaders with the corporation in the forefront? Or were they riding it out trying not to make waves. In the mean time good people were being ousted. We all could have been next. Didn't matter if you were doing a great job and working hard. No one had your back. You could have been the next one out. Are you ok with Execs who 'lead' in that manner?
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TWWGNW 07/23/2014 20:07:43
Yes, Mike did stand up to Brenda and the BOD, and we all know how he was rewarded. But if you think back, Brenda fired or demoted every single other EC member before that. Tibbets, Thurber, Snyder, Pam Jordan, etal, for one reason; so she could replace them with her lap dogs. Think about what you would have expected these people to do. They DID push back on issues, but they had mortgages and families and prayed that Brenda would go away, since she was so obviously unsuited for any form of leadership. All of these EC members insulated their staff members from Brenda's reign of terror as you will also recall. These were excellent leaders with many decades of successful careers behind them only to have it all end when Kulingoski made the fatal error of putting that sociopath in charge of a supremely we'll run company.
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07/23/2014 01:15:11
They are well paid officers of a public corporation. The ship almost sank from under them as they were afraid to act. Are those the type of people that should be in charge? I'd love to hear more of Mueller's story. Why did not one stand with him?
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07/23/2014 16:17:17
That's the cruel irony of this entire saga. The ship was nowhere close to sinking. Just the opposite. It was a playground for certain members of the previous administration who literally "picked the low hanging fruit of other peoples hard work". The entire EC cannot be indicted for a few people behavior. They were in survival mode. From the posts on this site you can tell they were miserable under Rocklin et al., Her departure and Plotkin's arrival was the one good thing that came out of it...and you see where that ended up.
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07/23/2014 19:01:17
I expect better than survival mode from officers of a corporation. Are you saying they were in survival mode the nine years Brenda was at the helm?
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07/24/2014 00:47:30
Well people react differently under stress.
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Don Naptolong 07/22/2014 20:23:16
Absolutely right.Brenda was one of the most vindictive people I have ever had the misfortune of working under...albeit quite a ways under. She came in with a mandate and abused it. She should have never been made permanent CEO but had the board completely fooled. That mandate from Kulongoski gave her enormous latitude and no one challenged her. And, as time passed she feathered her nest with her stalwart buddies and flunkies. The list of flunkies is what? 10 maybe. It's hard to challenge a phalanx of true believers ( pathological as they maybe) like that...best just to keep your mouth shut and stay off her radar. The ones that joined in the fun are now paying the price.

It is just very sad that good people were hurt in all of this. The Board was derelict and AWOL, Brenda was absolutely and unequivocally not suited to lead SAIF after her first 18 month clean up job was done. No one walks on water and the problems Brenda fixed were, in hindsight, not all that complex and were in fact easily fixed. SAIF as an entity was never in jeopardy and many people could have easily done what she did without the bullshit. Then she should have gone back to being a prosecutor for DOJ...where her skills and talents are really appreciated. Tracking down the bad guys. There were no bad guys at SAIF....her talents were just not needed but hubris and her brand of bravado went a long way and this is the price we pay for it. Having worked around a lot of incompetent state managers I've found that once they are de-frocked and exposed for the duplicitous frauds they are they are gone...never to be heard from again. And, She is gone. Dust. No one will remember her other than of the terrible damage she did. This is what happens when Governors aren't careful and fail to pay attention. Hello?
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Lottery Smith 07/22/2014 22:59:31
Don - you are absolutely right. We suffered the exact same thing at Lottery. The things she was sent to Lottery to fix were actually minor, but were played up for all they were worth. Lottery is still cleaning up after the mistakes in management she made here. It has taken a long time to undo her mistakes, but it is almost done. And by the way, I do not think that DOJ wants her back either. Her "career" is over. The playground bully has been exposed for the petty little tyrant she is - all bluster and no talent or abilities other than being a bully and fooling her bosses into thinking she is some kind of a miracle worker.
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In fact, not long after Brenda arrived, she made the statement that she came in expecting to find a whole lot of problems, but instead found hard-working, dedicated employees and a company in good financial condition and running well. What she did "fix" were the people at the top. She eliminated those who served under Keene and brought in the state agency underperformers. A number of those had problems at other agencies and had been shunted around between them until they found a home with BR. No wonder they did everything she asked of them! Upper management that managed to survive soon learned they best march lockstep or out the door they went. Flying under the radar took on new meaning under the Rocklin regime that's for sure. I'm so glad she is gone. Now the rest of them need to exit too.
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Don Naptolong 07/23/2014 03:05:07
I am not trying to monopolize the conversation on this very important site but just a few more things and I'll yield to others. Having been around before coming to SAIF I had had my fill of incompetent managers. I read the tea leaves on her the minute she made her first grand appearance. I immediately saw the bully, the "my way or the highway" and the "new sheriff in town" mindset. It's a common form of behavior amongst certain DOJ folks. Being adversarial in certain contexts is required. In other contexts, like SAIF, it is just repugnant and bad for business. There really is no place for it.

So, having other options I knew I was not sticking around. I'd seen this show before. My departure was swift. So, in a way, none of this surprises me. SAIF did not need a law enforcement officer with no insurance background to run it. I thought thought then, and I know now, it demeaned the company,and the employees, and was a grand mistake. I never felt better or more sure of a career decision than when I walked out those glass doors. Yes, I was sad to go. But I knew in time the thing was going to blow sky high.
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Don Naptolong 07/22/2014 05:14:09
Just my opinion, and as a cynic, I think it's a waste of time to post anything, of any substance, to Direct Talk. I would steer clear of any corporate websites for anything other than work. I think the best way to proceed at this point is by contacting the editorial boards at the news papers (Mark Zusman at Willamette Week and Erik Lukens, editor of the op ed, editorial and in my Opinion section at the Oregonian). The Governor's Office obviously sees this as a major liability and is trying to ignore it for as long as possible. They are clearly embarrassed and have no game plan for yet, another screw up. They are scared spit less that Richardson's campaign could somehow gain traction. In the meantime this is all very unfortunate for the innocent people caught in the middle. The actual odds of Kitzhaber losing the campaign to Richardson are slim to non existent. So, knowing that, it makes it even more galling that they don't exert more influence over the issues at hand.
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07/23/2014 14:09:54
I think we need to continue to do EVERYTHING within our power. If we don't let up, and we keep our numbers up, eventually things will change. If we roll over, lose enthusiasm, and just accept things the way they are, as they predict we will, then they win. Unfortunately, that means all of Oregon loses.
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07/22/2014 17:14:15
Maybe it is time to get the Feds involved. If our own Governor won't do anything and says he doesn't see a problem and isnt, at the very minimum, going to request a full investigation or any investigation at all, then maybe he has something to hide too, maybe the corruption goes ALL the way to the top.
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Former SAIFer 07/22/2014 19:11:37
Try this: http://www.opb.org/thinkoutloud/blog/suggest-topic/
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Harley Leiber 07/22/2014 20:33:29
Here's an example of doing the right thing:

http://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-31886-oregon_zoo_re_hires_veterinarian_mitch_finnegan.html

They made a mistake and fixed it...The Governor should use this as an example...
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anonymous 07/23/2014 04:50:14
Great article Bob, you nailed the story once again. If we can't get Plotkin back, can we have Bob as CEO?

I don't know if going to the feds will do any good. It is an internal state issue, and it's like there's no fraud in the federal government (cough cough irs) right? o_O

we're stuck. we need to keep this story in the media somehow, also while avoiding retaliation, which saif says is against their policies. good thing our policies were followed in the Plotkin investigation right? o_O
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07/23/2014 15:31:29
Don't rule out the Feds. They can be involved when a state government has a conflict of interest in investigating fraud and abuse. Cover Oregon is a state program, but the Feds are involved. The DOJ has an obvious conflict of interest, and billions are at stake here. What could these people be hiding? It seems to me that if it was a simple mistake, it would've been corrected.

No, the FBI should be brought in. This is bigger than the firing of one man.
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07/23/2014 13:05:30
That's your angle right there: SAIF employees, at all levels of the company, want to talk but fear retaliation. Simple and direct. Now write that to editors and editorial boards and KATU Channel 2.
They'll do the rest.

Bob's been doing a phenomenal job, worthy of a Pulitzer prize, but he's way far away.
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07/25/2014 16:21:17
Perhaps if we are successful in getting John Plotkin back, we could nominate Bob for that Pulitzer Prize! I just found this old article in his blog, and it is pretty appropriate. Funny too.

http://www.workerscompensation.com/compnewsnetwork/from-bobs-cluttered-desk/17519-finding-my-pulitzer-on-the-road-to-bah-hahbah.html
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Former SAIFer 07/23/2014 17:10:01
SAIF employees: Write to OPB's Think Out Loud program. The link I posted above, turns out, doesn't work. But ThinkOutLoud at opb dot org does. It would be kinda funny: The OPB show's host Dave Miller might end up interviewing company spokesman Dave Miller about OPB sponsor SAIF Corporation. But OPB does good journalism and this story is exactly the kind that Think Out Loud might tackle. Why not try it!?
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07/23/2014 20:03:00
Email Mike Bonetto Governors Chief of Staff at

"OHPB.Info@state.or.us" <OHPB.Info@state.or.us>; ( Mike chairs this Board)
https://www.facebook.com/cylvia.hayes.9?fref=ts.

He's the guy who sent the email to the BOD saying they don't tolerate any VERIFIED forms of harassment, offensive stuff etc., But, none of it was verified. In fact, all of it was unverified.

Or. You can always try going thru the Oregon Prosperity Initiative email address: mary.e.rowinski@state.or.us. to contact the First Lady, Cylvia Hayes, Kitzhaber's significant other.
She may be able to convince him to act. She is the head of the Oregon Prosperity Initiative.
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twwgnw 07/23/2014 20:57:33
For God's sake, will everyone PLEASE stop referring to her as the first lady!!!
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sylvester 07/23/2014 22:08:45
An alternative, potentially financially expensive idea. Purchase ad space in the Oregonian & OregonLive stating the concerns from employees of SAIF Corporation? Although we would need to find a mutually agreed upon author.
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Brandon Smith 07/24/2014 05:21:55
Today I sent inquiries to the Oregonian and Statesman Journal to see what an ad would cost for a full page on a Sunday.
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07/27/2014 05:07:28
I am all for contributing money for an ad in the papers. But more important... We have to form an organized group where we can collect money, hassle the newspapers and become a "cause" that has at least 450 members (per the petition signatures). How do we do that and still maintain our privacy? I don't know... Anybody out there have any ideas? Do we need to form a political group... Put a measure on a ballot for Oregonians to vote on.. ????
We need to do something active... and not just passive.
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Georgia Bulldog 07/24/2014 17:22:24
Great idea! Count me in as a contributor. I'll follow up with the Facebook Group.
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current employee 07/24/2014 13:36:37
Great idea Brandon! Cost may not be prohibitive if a number of employees contribute. Then we would need to get a group together to write it. The right message would be critical
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07/24/2014 16:11:57
Might not cost much more for a billboard on I-5, in the Portland area, or Salem. Kitzhaber would get to look at it everyday. Could simply say something like, “Hey Kitzhaber, what about SAIF?”, and include a link to this site and Brandon's Facebook page.

The cost would be minimal if enough folks chipped in. It would certainly garner media attention and apply pressure on Kitzhaber that he hasn't yet felt, apparently.

I'd be happy to spearhead it if there's enough interest and commitment.
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WorkersCompensation.com 07/24/2014 19:01:02
If you need it, or if it would be helpful, the following link has been set up to bring up all of Bob's SAIF articles:

http://www.workerscompensation.com/ReturnTheCEO
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07/24/2014 17:59:39
I love the billboard idea. A little televised news media attention would be fantastic.
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07/24/2014 03:38:24
Congressman Kurt Schrader is holding a tele-town hall meeting on July 28, 2014 at 6:00 PM PDT.

https://schrader.house.gov/forms/form/?ID=3136
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Stay the Course 07/25/2014 15:53:51
I contacted Congressman Schrader very early on, and his office advised me this was a local-level issue and to contact my representative/senator. However, he might not be able to ignore a number of SAIF employees at a Town Hall meeting. It would be worth a try. Plus, if it is televised, it would be a great opportunity to get the word out.

Signed SAIF Employee Determined to do the Right Thing and Stay the Course
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Brandon Smith 07/24/2014 04:51:10
We all appreciate the outstanding work Bob Wilson has done for the employees of SAIF and the employers / injured workers around Oregon. However, sometimes comments on a blog are not the most effective way to communicate information, share ideas, and offer suggestions. I've created a Facebook group called "Concerned Employees Of SAIF Corporation" that I offer as an additional forum for past and present employees to congregate, discuss and share.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/concernedemployeesofsaifcorporation/
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